1 00:00:05,930 --> 00:00:04,039 good evening and welcome to the post 2 00:00:08,299 --> 00:00:05,940 launch news conference for spatial 3 00:00:10,430 --> 00:00:08,309 discoveries sts-133 mission to the 4 00:00:12,230 --> 00:00:10,440 National Space Station joining us here 5 00:00:15,020 --> 00:00:12,240 today to discuss discoveries historic 6 00:00:19,210 --> 00:00:15,030 final liftoff the social social ministry 7 00:00:24,470 --> 00:00:21,830 the spatial integration manager Mike 8 00:00:26,390 --> 00:00:24,480 Moses getting me and spatial launch 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:26,400 director mike line block good evening 10 00:00:29,630 --> 00:00:27,930 we'll start with some opening remarks 11 00:00:32,990 --> 00:00:29,640 and then take a question since morrow 12 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:33,000 thanks John this is a pretty tremendous 13 00:00:39,049 --> 00:00:36,510 day and space life for us you know this 14 00:00:41,150 --> 00:00:39,059 morning atv successfully docked a space 15 00:00:45,260 --> 00:00:41,160 station which was a great way to start 16 00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:45,270 the day i received a bunch of pages and 17 00:00:50,060 --> 00:00:48,239 emails from my European partners tell me 18 00:00:52,700 --> 00:00:50,070 we had a go to go launch discovery today 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:52,710 as soon as the ATV docked and that was 20 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:54,210 kind of a strange occurrence for me I 21 00:00:58,729 --> 00:00:56,399 don't usually get approval from them and 22 00:01:00,260 --> 00:00:58,739 then they whisked wish me best the best 23 00:01:02,479 --> 00:01:00,270 of luck with the shuttle launch later 24 00:01:03,650 --> 00:01:02,489 today and and for us to be sitting here 25 00:01:05,750 --> 00:01:03,660 today with both of those events 26 00:01:09,260 --> 00:01:05,760 occurring as successfully as they have 27 00:01:11,149 --> 00:01:09,270 done it was just an amazing event so I'd 28 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:11,159 also like to thank the teams that got us 29 00:01:14,210 --> 00:01:12,960 here there was a lot of work that we 30 00:01:17,330 --> 00:01:14,220 talked about getting their vehicles 31 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:17,340 ready to go fly the teams were very well 32 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:18,810 prepared today as we went in an account 33 00:01:24,140 --> 00:01:22,710 went through activities Mike Moses and 34 00:01:25,370 --> 00:01:24,150 Mike Leinbach will talk to you more 35 00:01:27,649 --> 00:01:25,380 about those events but they went 36 00:01:29,450 --> 00:01:27,659 extremely well we saw a couple foam 37 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:29,460 losses during a sent from the external 38 00:01:34,609 --> 00:01:32,570 tank we saw one they're all after the 39 00:01:36,679 --> 00:01:34,619 aerodynamic sensitive time so they're 40 00:01:38,510 --> 00:01:36,689 not a concern to us there's one that's 41 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:38,520 pretty noticeable around three minutes 42 00:01:43,010 --> 00:01:40,320 and 51 seconds you'll see it in the 43 00:01:44,899 --> 00:01:43,020 video it's probably an air piece of foam 44 00:01:47,170 --> 00:01:44,909 about maybe eight by ten inches that 45 00:01:50,660 --> 00:01:47,180 comes off that's well after the area of 46 00:01:53,389 --> 00:01:50,670 concern from a an impact of the orbiter 47 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:53,399 standpoint that's also consistent when 48 00:01:57,410 --> 00:01:55,770 we see cryo pumping in the foam law so 49 00:01:58,850 --> 00:01:57,420 it's a mechanism we understand and I 50 00:02:00,830 --> 00:01:58,860 would say all these events that we've 51 00:02:02,990 --> 00:02:00,840 seen and we saw one two three four of 52 00:02:04,370 --> 00:02:03,000 them they're all within family and their 53 00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:04,380 typical kind of performance from the 54 00:02:07,340 --> 00:02:06,000 tank so of everything we saw in the tank 55 00:02:09,139 --> 00:02:07,350 is performance just like we've seen 56 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:09,149 before and looks very good but you will 57 00:02:11,070 --> 00:02:10,560 see this one event if you look through 58 00:02:13,410 --> 00:02:11,080 the video 59 00:02:15,140 --> 00:02:13,420 so again I can't say enough to the teams 60 00:02:17,340 --> 00:02:15,150 that really put us here and got the 61 00:02:18,660 --> 00:02:17,350 vehicle ready to go fly got the tank 62 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:18,670 ready to go fly the vehicle performance 63 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:21,510 was perfectly nominal during ascent I 64 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:23,920 caution us all we have a huge mission in 65 00:02:28,860 --> 00:02:26,290 front of us the pmm activities in the to 66 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:28,870 EVs all the activity on orbit is not 67 00:02:32,430 --> 00:02:30,760 trivial in any way shape or form and we 68 00:02:34,530 --> 00:02:32,440 need to stay focused on that get the 69 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:34,540 orbit activities done and we get 70 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:36,010 discovery back then we can talk about 71 00:02:40,110 --> 00:02:38,290 how things really went so it's up to the 72 00:02:41,070 --> 00:02:40,120 next team that to go do that next work 73 00:02:42,660 --> 00:02:41,080 and they're ready to go but 74 00:02:44,130 --> 00:02:42,670 congratulations to the launch team that 75 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:44,140 got us here and did a great job getting 76 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:47,680 us ready to go fly so Mike thanks go so 77 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:49,330 let's see we talked to you in the 78 00:02:53,370 --> 00:02:51,310 pre-launch conference about how how 79 00:02:54,750 --> 00:02:53,380 probably were of the teams like bill 80 00:02:55,860 --> 00:02:54,760 said that got the external tank ready to 81 00:02:58,199 --> 00:02:55,870 go got our analysis and our 82 00:03:00,180 --> 00:02:58,209 understanding of that problem licked and 83 00:03:01,949 --> 00:03:00,190 I think pulmonary look today showed that 84 00:03:03,780 --> 00:03:01,959 we did we did have good performance out 85 00:03:05,730 --> 00:03:03,790 of the tank like like bill said with the 86 00:03:06,780 --> 00:03:05,740 foam loss it looks like that's in family 87 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:06,790 we're going to go through all the normal 88 00:03:11,370 --> 00:03:09,130 rigor all the photo analysis all the 89 00:03:13,530 --> 00:03:11,380 debris analysis will get imagery back 90 00:03:15,570 --> 00:03:13,540 and we'll go sure make sure we truly do 91 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:15,580 understand all that and before we fly 92 00:03:19,949 --> 00:03:16,930 then the next flight understand that 93 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:19,959 that losses in family and expected the 94 00:03:24,509 --> 00:03:22,170 the other work on the GUP to keep the 95 00:03:26,699 --> 00:03:24,519 hydrogen vent from leaking when we hit 96 00:03:28,860 --> 00:03:26,709 topping flow on the hydrogen tank again 97 00:03:30,630 --> 00:03:28,870 worked perfect we hit that that that 98 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:30,640 cycle and when the topping we had 99 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:31,630 topping in the valve came open and 100 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:32,769 stayed open for a while the leak 101 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:34,390 detector stayed flat line no no 102 00:03:38,430 --> 00:03:36,250 indications of a leak whatsoever so a 103 00:03:40,199 --> 00:03:38,440 big congratulations to that team who 104 00:03:42,330 --> 00:03:40,209 really really poured their heart and 105 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:42,340 soul and time into making sure we had 106 00:03:47,460 --> 00:03:43,900 that aligned and then realigned and then 107 00:03:50,250 --> 00:03:47,470 re realigned just just right and so they 108 00:03:51,479 --> 00:03:50,260 did they did a fantastic job I'll let 109 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:51,489 Mike talk to you about a couple of the 110 00:03:54,690 --> 00:03:53,230 little hiccups we had during the count 111 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:54,700 they were all pretty minor speed bumps 112 00:03:58,979 --> 00:03:57,370 in the in the systems the ice team came 113 00:04:00,180 --> 00:03:58,989 back and gave us a perfectly clean 114 00:04:02,670 --> 00:04:00,190 report on the vehicle everything 115 00:04:05,250 --> 00:04:02,680 everything looked great and so we knew 116 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:05,260 we had a good good stack both in the 117 00:04:10,590 --> 00:04:08,080 orbiter the ssme is the SRBs and the 118 00:04:12,330 --> 00:04:10,600 external tank we talked a little bit 119 00:04:13,740 --> 00:04:12,340 about whether just because we always 120 00:04:15,420 --> 00:04:13,750 like to talk about the weather and we 121 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:15,430 kept an eye on the clouds out there the 122 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:17,769 the towel sites we had two goods towel 123 00:04:21,060 --> 00:04:19,209 sites all day long and we actually ended 124 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:21,070 up getting a good district site as well 125 00:04:23,879 --> 00:04:22,330 so we had three towel sites more than 126 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:23,889 more than we need 127 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:25,840 the RTLS weather was never really a 128 00:04:29,129 --> 00:04:27,370 problem but like I said we did like to 129 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:29,139 talk about it for a little bit and 130 00:04:32,459 --> 00:04:31,030 everything went good the biggest 131 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:32,469 citement came in at the end when we were 132 00:04:36,089 --> 00:04:33,849 getting ready to pick up the count and 133 00:04:37,830 --> 00:04:36,099 the range went red and again this is a 134 00:04:38,909 --> 00:04:37,840 just to kind of help you understand the 135 00:04:41,700 --> 00:04:38,919 architecture you know we have our 136 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:41,710 command and control center here there's 137 00:04:44,969 --> 00:04:43,360 the the launch team executing there's a 138 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:44,979 kind of a launch decision Authority 139 00:04:48,659 --> 00:04:47,409 which is that that programmatic of you 140 00:04:50,459 --> 00:04:48,669 know are you ready to go that day or not 141 00:04:52,980 --> 00:04:50,469 and that's in the shuttle program the 142 00:04:54,809 --> 00:04:52,990 range has their own their own equivalent 143 00:04:56,820 --> 00:04:54,819 of that headed by the commander of the 144 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:56,830 45th space wing as the launch decision 145 00:04:59,790 --> 00:04:58,330 authority over there in the the range 146 00:05:02,010 --> 00:04:59,800 operations control center is the Morrell 147 00:05:03,450 --> 00:05:02,020 operations control center and they have 148 00:05:04,679 --> 00:05:03,460 their own set of criteria things that 149 00:05:06,149 --> 00:05:04,689 they need systems they need to have up 150 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:06,159 and running we've levied some 151 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:07,870 requirements on them that for shuttle 152 00:05:10,890 --> 00:05:09,039 launches we need some extra stuff 153 00:05:12,809 --> 00:05:10,900 they've levied some requirements on us 154 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:12,819 for shuttle launches so we share some 155 00:05:16,860 --> 00:05:14,560 commit criteria but in this case this 156 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:16,870 was one of theirs their command systems 157 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:19,449 they had a hiccup in some of their 158 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:20,710 command systems that they didn't quite 159 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:23,110 understand I can't really go into all 160 00:05:27,179 --> 00:05:24,460 the details again because it's not our 161 00:05:28,439 --> 00:05:27,189 requirement but but they basically had a 162 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:28,449 funny that they didn't quite understand 163 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:29,710 and they did exactly what we would do 164 00:05:32,879 --> 00:05:31,360 which was go read and be no go until 165 00:05:34,379 --> 00:05:32,889 they had a chance to talk about it they 166 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:34,389 talked it over and decided that the 167 00:05:37,559 --> 00:05:35,500 configuration they were seeing was 168 00:05:40,110 --> 00:05:37,569 stable and they were happy with it and 169 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:40,120 so they gave a go to proceed the problem 170 00:05:43,379 --> 00:05:41,409 becomes one of communication when you 171 00:05:45,929 --> 00:05:43,389 get down that close when we hit the t 172 00:05:47,579 --> 00:05:45,939 minus nine point where we wanted to pick 173 00:05:49,139 --> 00:05:47,589 up the count they still hadn't yet 174 00:05:50,610 --> 00:05:49,149 figured out if they were going to be 175 00:05:52,589 --> 00:05:50,620 able to resolve this problem so we 176 00:05:53,550 --> 00:05:52,599 decided to count to five minutes Mike's 177 00:05:55,079 --> 00:05:53,560 launch team came to me with that 178 00:05:56,969 --> 00:05:55,089 recommendation it was an outstanding one 179 00:05:58,740 --> 00:05:56,979 to buy a little more time keep counting 180 00:06:00,149 --> 00:05:58,750 to five minutes we made sure the range 181 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:00,159 was ok with us proceeding down to that 182 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:01,330 point and we would have held at five 183 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:03,610 which we ended up doing because they 184 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:04,930 didn't quite get that problem resolved 185 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:06,610 and from that point on we had three 186 00:06:12,089 --> 00:06:10,810 minutes of hold time to burn once we hit 187 00:06:14,159 --> 00:06:12,099 that five-minute window we pretty much 188 00:06:15,329 --> 00:06:14,169 verbally behind the scenes had the the 189 00:06:16,379 --> 00:06:15,339 nod that we were going to be okay to 190 00:06:18,149 --> 00:06:16,389 pick up we were going to get a green 191 00:06:19,409 --> 00:06:18,159 from the range it just takes a while for 192 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:19,419 some of that communication path to 193 00:06:25,499 --> 00:06:21,310 happen and unfortunate this was a very 194 00:06:26,850 --> 00:06:25,509 visible communication this delay but 195 00:06:27,869 --> 00:06:26,860 it's kind of natural right yeah and you 196 00:06:29,850 --> 00:06:27,879 got to be careful when you got to do 197 00:06:31,740 --> 00:06:29,860 everything the right way on the range 198 00:06:33,420 --> 00:06:31,750 side they literally have a switch the 199 00:06:35,999 --> 00:06:33,430 hold fire switch that they throw to say 200 00:06:37,410 --> 00:06:36,009 it is a inhibit to the countdown it 201 00:06:38,730 --> 00:06:37,420 cannot proceed and 202 00:06:40,650 --> 00:06:38,740 we cannot pick up her account to that 203 00:06:42,510 --> 00:06:40,660 switch is thrown I verbally told Mike 204 00:06:44,610 --> 00:06:42,520 that we had the verbal approval from the 205 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:44,620 range to go ahead and go that was not a 206 00:06:47,130 --> 00:06:45,910 commitment to say we're going to 207 00:06:48,900 --> 00:06:47,140 override the range and launch no matter 208 00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:48,910 what they say that was a get the teams 209 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:50,260 moving to get ready to pick up the count 210 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:51,490 get the clocks all ready to go in the 211 00:06:56,220 --> 00:06:53,710 books ready and then we did get that go 212 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:56,230 to proceed from SRO the the Range Safety 213 00:07:00,540 --> 00:06:58,570 Officer to say and the whole fire switch 214 00:07:02,430 --> 00:07:00,550 was removed and we had a go to count we 215 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:02,440 ended up having there was about four 216 00:07:05,370 --> 00:07:03,970 seconds on the countdown clock when you 217 00:07:06,540 --> 00:07:05,380 when you do the math of performance 218 00:07:09,090 --> 00:07:06,550 during back on the vehicle we had about 219 00:07:11,310 --> 00:07:09,100 two seconds of whole time remaining 220 00:07:12,540 --> 00:07:11,320 which is about one more second than Mike 221 00:07:16,170 --> 00:07:12,550 needed to get the job done so it's 222 00:07:17,790 --> 00:07:16,180 plenty of margin so it all worked out 223 00:07:19,530 --> 00:07:17,800 very well and I would say we scripted 224 00:07:21,780 --> 00:07:19,540 that way but you know I could use a 225 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:21,790 little less heart palpitations in the 226 00:07:25,650 --> 00:07:23,050 final couple seconds of the countdown 227 00:07:27,030 --> 00:07:25,660 but but again a testament to the the 228 00:07:28,290 --> 00:07:27,040 processes in the inhibits that are in 229 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:28,300 place and the reason why we have 230 00:07:32,070 --> 00:07:29,650 independent cross checks and 231 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:32,080 communication paths to be able to work 232 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:33,730 through problems and we don't just rush 233 00:07:37,230 --> 00:07:35,710 to commit we do wait for the right 234 00:07:39,150 --> 00:07:37,240 authorities to check and verify that 235 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:39,160 they are ok so in this case we did that 236 00:07:41,940 --> 00:07:40,930 will debrief to make sure there's 237 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:41,950 nothing we can do a little better in the 238 00:07:45,450 --> 00:07:43,450 future or any ways that we could 239 00:07:46,770 --> 00:07:45,460 communicate a little better what the 240 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:46,780 actual constraints and the clocks are 241 00:07:51,450 --> 00:07:49,870 you know it's always that lots of too 242 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:51,460 many cooks watching the pot watching the 243 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:53,290 clock it's hard time flies when you're 244 00:07:56,100 --> 00:07:54,400 when you're trying to just make sure 245 00:07:57,090 --> 00:07:56,110 you're communicating and that that 246 00:07:58,650 --> 00:07:57,100 happened I looked up and all the sudden 247 00:08:01,200 --> 00:07:58,660 we were at about 35 seconds to go and 248 00:08:04,830 --> 00:08:01,210 and we hadn't yet quite got what we 249 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:04,840 needed but we got there so the that was 250 00:08:07,950 --> 00:08:06,130 an exciting thing I talked to the team's 251 00:08:10,410 --> 00:08:07,960 back in Houston the crew is on orbit 252 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:10,420 they're busy reconfiguring the shuttle 253 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:12,610 from the orbiter from a from the rocket 254 00:08:16,470 --> 00:08:14,050 for a sent into the spacecraft for orbit 255 00:08:18,750 --> 00:08:16,480 operations ohms to went just fine there 256 00:08:20,700 --> 00:08:18,760 in a great orbit we had a nominal mico 257 00:08:23,310 --> 00:08:20,710 with no problems from the main engines 258 00:08:26,070 --> 00:08:23,320 you know i was joking with our main 259 00:08:27,870 --> 00:08:26,080 engine and our SRB compadres they kind 260 00:08:29,820 --> 00:08:27,880 of were not in the limelight for the 261 00:08:32,370 --> 00:08:29,830 last four months external tank had kind 262 00:08:34,140 --> 00:08:32,380 of stepped up to to shade them and and 263 00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:34,150 apparently four months of dwell time 264 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:35,620 made them work even better because the 265 00:08:39,270 --> 00:08:37,270 main engines were picture-perfect right 266 00:08:42,090 --> 00:08:39,280 down the middle and the SRBs did the 267 00:08:44,820 --> 00:08:42,100 fantastic job they always do it is it is 268 00:08:46,170 --> 00:08:44,830 truly amazing you know i get i get the 269 00:08:47,670 --> 00:08:46,180 emotional choked up of seeing the 270 00:08:49,140 --> 00:08:47,680 vehicle launch and putting humans in 271 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:49,150 space but from an engineering 272 00:08:52,449 --> 00:08:50,540 perspective it is 273 00:08:54,220 --> 00:08:52,459 technical marvel to see the main engines 274 00:08:56,139 --> 00:08:54,230 and the SRBs carry this vehicle into 275 00:08:57,340 --> 00:08:56,149 orbit the amount of energy that we're 276 00:08:59,290 --> 00:08:57,350 putting into that thing to get it up 277 00:09:01,720 --> 00:08:59,300 into orbit and then head into Mach 25 is 278 00:09:03,100 --> 00:09:01,730 is a truly outstanding event and the 279 00:09:05,949 --> 00:09:03,110 fact that it happens perfectly every 280 00:09:08,170 --> 00:09:05,959 time is also a testament to the to the 281 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:08,180 teams and the commitment to get us to 282 00:09:11,379 --> 00:09:09,860 the pad in the first place so so it was 283 00:09:12,819 --> 00:09:11,389 really pleased to see that then and 284 00:09:15,370 --> 00:09:12,829 there were lots of smiles in the in the 285 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:15,380 firing room all around but again like 286 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:16,490 bill said it's time to focus on the 287 00:09:19,930 --> 00:09:17,930 mission the guys have a really busy 288 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:19,940 flight ahead of them to e VA's 289 00:09:23,889 --> 00:09:21,440 delivering hardware to the station the 290 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:23,899 permanent Logistics Module as a storage 291 00:09:27,999 --> 00:09:26,240 facility for station and I know now that 292 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:28,009 ATVs there and now that we're on our way 293 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:29,810 the the station program is very anxious 294 00:09:34,090 --> 00:09:31,730 to get to work in and help posture the 295 00:09:36,670 --> 00:09:34,100 station for the future and another 10 or 296 00:09:38,710 --> 00:09:36,680 20 years hopefully of science in space 297 00:09:41,499 --> 00:09:38,720 so I'll let Mike give you some more 298 00:09:43,420 --> 00:09:41,509 details okay thanks Mike let's say was a 299 00:09:45,430 --> 00:09:43,430 kind and exciting last few minutes of 300 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:45,440 this countdown several of us have been 301 00:09:49,269 --> 00:09:47,810 around for many many countdowns and this 302 00:09:52,990 --> 00:09:49,279 this was this was one for the record 303 00:09:55,389 --> 00:09:53,000 books the way the way it works and Mike 304 00:09:57,730 --> 00:09:55,399 did a great job describing it we could 305 00:09:59,590 --> 00:09:57,740 not pick up the count until they undid 306 00:10:01,990 --> 00:09:59,600 their hold switch on the range side and 307 00:10:03,340 --> 00:10:02,000 they ultimately did that and and so it 308 00:10:05,019 --> 00:10:03,350 took a little bit of time to get that in 309 00:10:07,210 --> 00:10:05,029 the communications from there from their 310 00:10:09,009 --> 00:10:07,220 commander down to the superintendent of 311 00:10:11,439 --> 00:10:09,019 range operations that they were indeed 312 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:11,449 go and to release that hold the hold 313 00:10:15,129 --> 00:10:13,279 switch that's a physical switch on the 314 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:15,139 on their console over there once that 315 00:10:18,610 --> 00:10:16,370 was done then we were clear to proceed 316 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:18,620 it takes us a few seconds to get the 317 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:21,050 final go to the NASA test director from 318 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:23,810 myself and pick up the clock and so you 319 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:24,769 know it may have seemed a little bit 320 00:10:28,150 --> 00:10:26,720 rushed to some people and outside but to 321 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:28,160 me on the inside and to the launch team 322 00:10:33,699 --> 00:10:29,839 we practice this we practice late 323 00:10:36,250 --> 00:10:33,709 picking up of the clock routinely and so 324 00:10:37,900 --> 00:10:36,260 you know it's a testament to the team 325 00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:37,910 that we prepare for things just like 326 00:10:42,639 --> 00:10:40,910 this and and and I'm very glad today 327 00:10:45,220 --> 00:10:42,649 that we have practice quite a few times 328 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:45,230 because it really paid off we were yeah 329 00:10:48,370 --> 00:10:46,370 we were a couple seconds away from 330 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:48,380 losing the window and then we would have 331 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:49,610 stood down and come back tomorrow and 332 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:51,529 try it again and that would have been 333 00:10:56,079 --> 00:10:53,930 okay too but we made it today and and 334 00:10:58,629 --> 00:10:56,089 you know the rest of the content really 335 00:11:00,189 --> 00:10:58,639 was pretty pretty easy a couple little 336 00:11:02,139 --> 00:11:00,199 issues you probably saw the issue with 337 00:11:02,830 --> 00:11:02,149 with the tile on the on the orbiter 338 00:11:04,660 --> 00:11:02,840 hatch 339 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:04,670 no big deal there we talked about it and 340 00:11:08,170 --> 00:11:06,560 recognize the type of repair that was 341 00:11:09,670 --> 00:11:08,180 needed we performed that repair and 342 00:11:12,940 --> 00:11:09,680 that's good to go we don't have an issue 343 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:12,950 with that at all so this was discoveries 344 00:11:19,660 --> 00:11:16,850 last great way to go out she she gave us 345 00:11:21,610 --> 00:11:19,670 a little bit of a fit today but it's a 346 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:21,620 great it's a great way to get Steve 347 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:24,290 Lindsey and his crew on orbit so very 348 00:11:27,310 --> 00:11:26,090 very proud of my launch team and all the 349 00:11:28,810 --> 00:11:27,320 rest of the people that work so hard on 350 00:11:32,020 --> 00:11:28,820 discovery and all the support systems 351 00:11:33,730 --> 00:11:32,030 around the country thanks thanks Mike 352 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:33,740 will now take questions here Kenny Space 353 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:35,330 Center remember to wait for the 354 00:11:38,380 --> 00:11:36,410 microphone state your full name 355 00:11:40,090 --> 00:11:38,390 affiliation please only initially asked 356 00:11:43,690 --> 00:11:40,100 one question will try to come back for 357 00:11:45,250 --> 00:11:43,700 follow-up good hi I'm mark Kirkman 358 00:11:46,990 --> 00:11:45,260 interspace news since I have one 359 00:11:48,670 --> 00:11:47,000 question I guess I'll start with going 360 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:48,680 to get just a little more detail on what 361 00:11:52,930 --> 00:11:50,570 has to happen anytime you have a manual 362 00:11:54,820 --> 00:11:52,940 hold like this to pick up the count I'm 363 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:54,830 kind of on the impression that even if 364 00:11:59,260 --> 00:11:57,050 you guys communicate properly and you 365 00:12:01,480 --> 00:11:59,270 give the go Mike why not give the go you 366 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:01,490 still have to have the GLS operator 367 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:03,110 mainly type it in and all that kind of 368 00:12:06,460 --> 00:12:04,370 thing to have the count resume how long 369 00:12:08,380 --> 00:12:06,470 does that normally take and I'll have a 370 00:12:09,970 --> 00:12:08,390 follow-up if you come back around yeah 371 00:12:13,660 --> 00:12:09,980 there were two things going on there now 372 00:12:15,820 --> 00:12:13,670 remember the eastern range enabled their 373 00:12:17,590 --> 00:12:15,830 hold fire switch and so they have to 374 00:12:19,630 --> 00:12:17,600 undo that once they once they put that 375 00:12:21,850 --> 00:12:19,640 in the preceding that's an instantaneous 376 00:12:24,220 --> 00:12:21,860 signal from them over to us be a hard 377 00:12:26,470 --> 00:12:24,230 wire and then since we put in a manual 378 00:12:28,270 --> 00:12:26,480 hold at five minutes intentionally 379 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:28,280 because we wanted to go down to five and 380 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:30,290 hold there then we had to instruct the 381 00:12:33,910 --> 00:12:31,730 GLS operator the ground launch sequencer 382 00:12:35,950 --> 00:12:33,920 operator which is which is really kind 383 00:12:39,820 --> 00:12:35,960 of the brains of the countdown you could 384 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:39,830 say that to pick up the clock as well so 385 00:12:43,210 --> 00:12:41,690 so the inhibit that that would 386 00:12:44,530 --> 00:12:43,220 physically prevent us from picking up 387 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:44,540 the countdown clock had to be removed 388 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:46,880 first and then we had instruct our 389 00:12:51,250 --> 00:12:49,250 ground launch sequencer operator to 390 00:12:53,980 --> 00:12:51,260 casually pick up the clock and so that's 391 00:12:56,950 --> 00:12:53,990 what you heard Steve pain the NASA test 392 00:12:58,450 --> 00:12:56,960 director tell George Thomas the GLS 393 00:13:00,550 --> 00:12:58,460 operator Dan to pick up the clock on 394 00:13:11,319 --> 00:13:00,560 your mark and he counted down and we 395 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:15,439 Randy avera enter space news this is for 396 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:18,569 Gertz de meyer and moses the redesign of 397 00:13:24,350 --> 00:13:21,569 the stringers on the inner tank section 398 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:24,360 of the et regarding the material 399 00:13:29,420 --> 00:13:26,610 properties was it lithium aluminum 400 00:13:32,030 --> 00:13:29,430 material or was it just aluminum like 401 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:32,040 the previous tanks prior to the 402 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:34,290 lightweight and super lightweight tanks 403 00:13:39,530 --> 00:13:37,170 I know you added the radius blocks but 404 00:13:42,769 --> 00:13:39,540 the basic stringer do you know the 405 00:13:44,540 --> 00:13:42,779 composition of that material yes the 406 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:44,550 stringers are the aluminum lithium new 407 00:13:47,660 --> 00:13:46,290 lightweight tanks that's that this is 408 00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:47,670 one of the super lightweight tanks the 409 00:13:51,230 --> 00:13:50,040 radius block mod was just regular 410 00:13:58,269 --> 00:13:51,240 aluminum it was not aluminum lithium 411 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:00,350 Marcia Dennis says he had pressed from 412 00:14:04,850 --> 00:14:02,490 my plane bug yesterday you told us you 413 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:04,860 expected it to be tough seeing discovery 414 00:14:09,170 --> 00:14:07,050 take off this last time how tough was it 415 00:14:12,050 --> 00:14:09,180 for you and talk a little bit about the 416 00:14:15,889 --> 00:14:12,060 emotions that you sensed in the control 417 00:14:18,259 --> 00:14:15,899 room after after liftoff well counting 418 00:14:19,939 --> 00:14:18,269 down we were we were busy doing our jobs 419 00:14:22,579 --> 00:14:19,949 and so the emotion didn't didn't have 420 00:14:24,439 --> 00:14:22,589 time to kick in I'll tell you there are 421 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:24,449 a lot of people a lot of Pat's on the 422 00:14:29,300 --> 00:14:27,360 back afterwards and the closeout crew 423 00:14:32,059 --> 00:14:29,310 gave me a surprise as a matter of fact 424 00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:32,069 that the for Discovery's last launch 425 00:14:37,730 --> 00:14:34,470 they gave me that this is from the hatch 426 00:14:40,629 --> 00:14:37,740 cover and it's signed by the astronaut 427 00:14:42,949 --> 00:14:40,639 crew and signed by the closeout crew and 428 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:42,959 so that was a gift from them to me and 429 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:45,810 that that's going to take a very special 430 00:14:58,970 --> 00:14:54,710 Jim silt Segal celebration independent 431 00:15:01,280 --> 00:14:58,980 newspaper did you have any sensors or 432 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:01,290 other ways of monitoring the stringers 433 00:15:05,540 --> 00:15:03,570 around those radius blocks as this 434 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:05,550 launch happened and do you know whether 435 00:15:09,740 --> 00:15:07,170 have any idea whether they were 436 00:15:12,620 --> 00:15:09,750 successful or unsuccessful I mean other 437 00:15:14,380 --> 00:15:12,630 than the launch was successful so there 438 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:14,390 was no additional instrumentation we had 439 00:15:20,030 --> 00:15:17,610 all our normal inspection assets focused 440 00:15:22,070 --> 00:15:20,040 on that region when the cryo load went 441 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:22,080 past that and the liquid level the tank 442 00:15:26,990 --> 00:15:24,450 rosin and shocked that that metal flange 443 00:15:28,340 --> 00:15:27,000 which is when it broke the first time so 444 00:15:30,260 --> 00:15:28,350 just our normal inspection assets to 445 00:15:32,180 --> 00:15:30,270 verify that it function properly and 446 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:32,190 then we have our imagery going uphill 447 00:15:35,420 --> 00:15:34,410 and when we get on orbit the crew turns 448 00:15:36,590 --> 00:15:35,430 around and takes pictures of the 449 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:36,600 external tank and so will be able to 450 00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:38,850 review those photos and see if there 451 00:15:42,260 --> 00:15:40,800 were any kind of foam defects around 452 00:15:44,330 --> 00:15:42,270 that flange that might lead us to 453 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:44,340 suspect something with the stringers but 454 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:46,110 so no no dedicated specialized 455 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:51,210 instrumentation segal wst you radio for 456 00:15:56,930 --> 00:15:54,570 bill bill now that we're on orbit this 457 00:15:58,670 --> 00:15:56,940 fly around has been banded around for 458 00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:58,680 some time as being quite important and 459 00:16:02,540 --> 00:16:00,480 something that we want to do can you 460 00:16:03,860 --> 00:16:02,550 tell us when we may have a handle on 461 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:03,870 when we're going to do it if we're going 462 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:05,930 to do it and why is it that important 463 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:08,370 we're going to the teams were taking a 464 00:16:12,020 --> 00:16:10,770 look at it they'll evaluate whether we 465 00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:12,030 can do it or not and we'll make a 466 00:16:15,380 --> 00:16:13,440 decision I think probably around flight 467 00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:15,390 day six of the mission so it'll be a 468 00:16:20,870 --> 00:16:17,160 ways into the mission before we actually 469 00:16:22,820 --> 00:16:20,880 make the decision we look at it it's 470 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:22,830 important from a couple standpoints its 471 00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:25,170 first a good photo documentation of the 472 00:16:28,490 --> 00:16:27,120 configuration its unique in the fact we 473 00:16:30,890 --> 00:16:28,500 have all the vehicles from all the 474 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:30,900 partners docked at station at one time 475 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:32,970 which gives us a just a nice you know 476 00:16:37,460 --> 00:16:35,490 kind of public affairs international 477 00:16:39,410 --> 00:16:37,470 view but then it also gives us some data 478 00:16:42,010 --> 00:16:39,420 from an engineering standpoint of how 479 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:42,020 well stations performing will look for 480 00:16:46,130 --> 00:16:44,610 micrometeoroid debris damage we fly 481 00:16:47,570 --> 00:16:46,140 around in this case with the soleus and 482 00:16:49,579 --> 00:16:47,580 a different angle than we typically do 483 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:49,589 when we do this the shuttle fly around 484 00:16:52,970 --> 00:16:51,570 so we'll see some hardware and some 485 00:16:55,130 --> 00:16:52,980 other areas of station which we 486 00:16:57,500 --> 00:16:55,140 typically do not see and we can't see as 487 00:16:59,750 --> 00:16:57,510 easily with our assets on board station 488 00:17:01,160 --> 00:16:59,760 with the robotic arm and cameras and 489 00:17:02,540 --> 00:17:01,170 things so it'll give us some engineering 490 00:17:03,769 --> 00:17:02,550 data in some areas we haven't seen 491 00:17:05,779 --> 00:17:03,779 before 492 00:17:08,029 --> 00:17:05,789 also as we retire the shuttle from 493 00:17:09,980 --> 00:17:08,039 flying we're going to use the Soyuz for 494 00:17:11,809 --> 00:17:09,990 this fly around so this also gives us a 495 00:17:13,610 --> 00:17:11,819 chance to practice a Soyuz fly around 496 00:17:15,710 --> 00:17:13,620 like we're going to do in the future so 497 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:15,720 it's a it's another way to gain some 498 00:17:19,490 --> 00:17:17,730 experience in a test configuration to go 499 00:17:21,770 --> 00:17:19,500 do that for an activity we're going to 500 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:21,780 do pretty routinely once we get there so 501 00:17:25,159 --> 00:17:23,089 it's a combination of all those things 502 00:17:27,439 --> 00:17:25,169 right now the Russian partners are 503 00:17:28,940 --> 00:17:27,449 taking a look at it I can't say whether 504 00:17:30,620 --> 00:17:28,950 we'll do it or not we're going to we're 505 00:17:31,580 --> 00:17:30,630 going to let them you know determine 506 00:17:33,409 --> 00:17:31,590 whether they think this is the right 507 00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:33,419 thing to do what the risks are what the 508 00:17:37,340 --> 00:17:35,190 safety aspects are the teams trained are 509 00:17:38,990 --> 00:17:37,350 we ready to go do it and we may or may 510 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:39,000 not do this so we'll just wait as we get 511 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:40,470 through the mission let the team decide 512 00:17:44,690 --> 00:17:42,330 and work it and see what happens if you 513 00:17:46,490 --> 00:17:44,700 focus inspection or we have EVs running 514 00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:46,500 long and this is clearly lower priority 515 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:48,360 and it won't occur so we'll let the 516 00:17:54,529 --> 00:17:50,010 mission play out and see if we need to 517 00:17:57,740 --> 00:17:54,539 do it or not hi it's a Craig gevalt with 518 00:17:59,740 --> 00:17:57,750 aerospace America for Gerst looking 519 00:18:02,840 --> 00:17:59,750 ahead at least a few days here if 520 00:18:05,390 --> 00:18:02,850 there's a federal shutdown how would 521 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:05,400 that affect toward the end of the flight 522 00:18:10,010 --> 00:18:08,850 ground staffing and so forth and taking 523 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:10,020 that a little broader how would that 524 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:15,330 affect sts-134 processing again we'll 525 00:18:19,909 --> 00:18:17,130 kind of see what happens you know we 526 00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:19,919 haven't really done any in detailed the 527 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:22,500 contingency planning yet you know for 528 00:18:25,010 --> 00:18:23,970 the mission that's flying we'd probably 529 00:18:26,690 --> 00:18:25,020 consider most of the folks 530 00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:26,700 mission-critical personnel and that's 531 00:18:29,930 --> 00:18:28,799 pretty much transparent to us and then 532 00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:29,940 we would go ahead and see where it fits 533 00:18:33,470 --> 00:18:31,679 in the overall manifest we'd work it 534 00:18:34,850 --> 00:18:33,480 with the right folks but but we'll see 535 00:18:37,010 --> 00:18:34,860 what happens on a congressional side 536 00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:37,020 it's up to them to go work to budget 537 00:18:40,850 --> 00:18:38,640 things but I think from a top level 538 00:18:42,289 --> 00:18:40,860 standpoint we'll be able to just press 539 00:18:43,820 --> 00:18:42,299 on and continue kind of the way we're 540 00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:43,830 heading and we'll see what happens and 541 00:18:49,220 --> 00:18:45,360 what what goes forward as we move 542 00:18:49,230 --> 00:18:57,660 it's more information about the 543 00:19:01,750 --> 00:19:00,460 let's see again it's their system and 544 00:19:04,090 --> 00:19:01,760 it's their internal hardware so the 545 00:19:05,770 --> 00:19:04,100 details of what happened we need to talk 546 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:05,780 to them for or I should say you guys 547 00:19:10,990 --> 00:19:08,690 need to talk to them and but from a from 548 00:19:13,030 --> 00:19:11,000 a what was conveyed to me from a purpose 549 00:19:14,860 --> 00:19:13,040 of the thing it was there it was their 550 00:19:17,980 --> 00:19:14,870 their command system so it's the system 551 00:19:20,380 --> 00:19:17,990 they use to command the things they need 552 00:19:22,180 --> 00:19:20,390 for telemetry and range safety systems 553 00:19:23,980 --> 00:19:22,190 and there was a hiccup in that system 554 00:19:37,450 --> 00:19:23,990 they did not quite understand and they 555 00:19:46,060 --> 00:19:37,460 needed time to evaluate the questions 556 00:19:48,730 --> 00:19:46,070 were a second round fool um Chris 557 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:48,740 Gebhart with NASA Space Flight com first 558 00:19:52,450 --> 00:19:50,450 off just a huge congratulations to you 559 00:19:55,450 --> 00:19:52,460 and all the teams a tremendous effort 560 00:19:57,970 --> 00:19:55,460 from everyone know for a lot of us 561 00:19:59,140 --> 00:19:57,980 wondering I'm for the end of the window 562 00:20:03,670 --> 00:19:59,150 that you know the publicized of the 563 00:20:05,860 --> 00:20:03,680 window earlier was a 455 p.m. and just 564 00:20:10,300 --> 00:20:05,870 what curious as to why the window was 565 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:10,310 closing at 453 today yeah that's so we 566 00:20:14,170 --> 00:20:12,410 do a real-time day of launch we call a 567 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:14,180 dolly Lou a day of launch I load update 568 00:20:18,550 --> 00:20:16,850 where we assess actual winds actual 569 00:20:21,370 --> 00:20:18,560 temperatures actual propellant loads and 570 00:20:23,140 --> 00:20:21,380 et so the the pre flight plan was 571 00:20:25,150 --> 00:20:23,150 assuming for the predicted temperatures 572 00:20:27,820 --> 00:20:25,160 wind profile and expected loading in the 573 00:20:29,410 --> 00:20:27,830 tank you'd have a performance to have 574 00:20:31,030 --> 00:20:29,420 about a five-minute window we knew we'd 575 00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:31,040 be pretty tight on that and we didn't 576 00:20:34,150 --> 00:20:32,360 have very much ass and performance 577 00:20:36,490 --> 00:20:34,160 margin above that and that we could 578 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:36,500 expect the window to shrink it was same 579 00:20:39,490 --> 00:20:37,970 situation we were back in November where 580 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:39,500 we actually I think we only had a three 581 00:20:44,170 --> 00:20:40,970 minute window on that first count we did 582 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:44,180 in November fifth and so when we got 583 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:45,410 there day launched today they ran the 584 00:20:49,420 --> 00:20:47,810 numbers the asset performance margin was 585 00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:49,430 up a little bit but not quite enough to 586 00:20:51,970 --> 00:20:50,720 give us the full five minute window so 587 00:20:56,050 --> 00:20:51,980 we had a three minute window for the day 588 00:20:57,700 --> 00:20:56,060 today bill Harwood CBS News for Mike 589 00:21:00,220 --> 00:20:57,710 Moses I guess or maybe bill I'm not sure 590 00:21:02,530 --> 00:21:00,230 to foam related questions you mentioned 591 00:21:04,210 --> 00:21:02,540 cryo pumping so could you tell where 592 00:21:05,049 --> 00:21:04,220 this stuff came from it I couldn't tell 593 00:21:07,149 --> 00:21:05,059 whether it was from a 594 00:21:09,639 --> 00:21:07,159 above or below on number one and number 595 00:21:11,739 --> 00:21:09,649 two does does the amount that you saw 596 00:21:12,970 --> 00:21:11,749 during this essay and obviously it was 597 00:21:14,980 --> 00:21:12,980 outside of your window of vulnerability 598 00:21:16,659 --> 00:21:14,990 but the amount was a little higher than 599 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:16,669 usual will that play any role in your 600 00:21:20,830 --> 00:21:19,129 decision to go ahead and stack 134 and 601 00:21:21,879 --> 00:21:20,840 go up to the patters that's something 602 00:21:24,340 --> 00:21:21,889 you guys are going to want to talk about 603 00:21:26,110 --> 00:21:24,350 you know again we'll take a look at the 604 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:26,120 data and see what it you know what it 605 00:21:31,180 --> 00:21:28,610 means to us by crowd pumping what we 606 00:21:33,879 --> 00:21:31,190 knows by the release time you know what 607 00:21:36,369 --> 00:21:33,889 happens is the air essentially gets 608 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:36,379 behind the foam and liquefies and then 609 00:21:40,810 --> 00:21:39,350 when the the propellant level drops in 610 00:21:42,970 --> 00:21:40,820 the hydrogen tank eventually then it 611 00:21:44,739 --> 00:21:42,980 warms up enough where that liquid air 612 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:44,749 then warms up to the flashpoint and 613 00:21:49,389 --> 00:21:46,970 boils and then forces and pops off the 614 00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:49,399 phone so this looks to us to be pretty 615 00:21:53,019 --> 00:21:51,110 consistent with that with the timing we 616 00:21:55,090 --> 00:21:53,029 saw in the location and a location is 617 00:21:56,799 --> 00:21:55,100 right around the hydrogen flange and you 618 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:56,809 remember we talked to you about we were 619 00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:58,369 concerned in that region we didn't want 620 00:22:01,419 --> 00:21:59,840 to do a lot of repairs in that region 621 00:22:03,549 --> 00:22:01,429 because we thought we could create a 622 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:03,559 path where air could then get into that 623 00:22:07,690 --> 00:22:05,570 super cold region of the tank and do 624 00:22:09,489 --> 00:22:07,700 exactly what we potentially saw here so 625 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:09,499 we've this is a kind of a known 626 00:22:13,210 --> 00:22:11,570 phenomena for us we'll go take the time 627 00:22:15,159 --> 00:22:13,220 we'll analyze will make sure that this 628 00:22:17,109 --> 00:22:15,169 is really the same phenomena we saw but 629 00:22:18,609 --> 00:22:17,119 that's our meijer indication today and 630 00:22:19,869 --> 00:22:18,619 then we'll see if it's right and then 631 00:22:21,159 --> 00:22:19,879 we'll determine if it means we need to 632 00:22:23,619 --> 00:22:21,169 do something different in this region 633 00:22:25,509 --> 00:22:23,629 but from the cursory look at what we saw 634 00:22:26,590 --> 00:22:25,519 today and what we saw in the asset video 635 00:22:29,169 --> 00:22:26,600 I think it's consistent with our 636 00:22:31,239 --> 00:22:29,179 experience base the loss although the 637 00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:31,249 size is fairly large the mass is not 638 00:22:35,649 --> 00:22:33,919 very much of a concern to us from a mass 639 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:35,659 standpoint and in fact that it's late 640 00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:37,369 and it's kind of an understood timing 641 00:22:40,690 --> 00:22:39,200 consideration it doesn't cause us a lot 642 00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:40,700 of concern but that doesn't mean we 643 00:22:43,810 --> 00:22:42,529 won't still keep digging and looking and 644 00:22:45,489 --> 00:22:43,820 trying to understand over the next 645 00:22:46,989 --> 00:22:45,499 couple of weeks but but it's not 646 00:22:48,820 --> 00:22:46,999 inconsistent with what we've seen and 647 00:22:51,399 --> 00:22:48,830 what we would have expected before in 648 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:51,409 Mike would you a yes so from a from a 649 00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:52,850 whole effect to the next mission we 650 00:22:55,539 --> 00:22:54,080 always kind of have that we want to make 651 00:22:57,999 --> 00:22:55,549 sure we understand that the in-flight 652 00:23:00,580 --> 00:22:58,009 anomalies and so right now I think we're 653 00:23:02,289 --> 00:23:00,590 rolling over on the twenty-eighth will 654 00:23:04,060 --> 00:23:02,299 let the team see what they chew through 655 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:04,070 by then and we'll decide if we really do 656 00:23:06,909 --> 00:23:04,970 want to give a little more time before 657 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:06,919 we roll over or not so that's kind of 658 00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:08,570 always the real time call that we make 659 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:12,529 every time we fly are you thanks Irene 660 00:23:16,930 --> 00:23:14,690 Klotz with Reuters for them either Mike 661 00:23:18,980 --> 00:23:16,940 Moses or Mike Leinbach the UM when the 662 00:23:20,570 --> 00:23:18,990 range called out this problem they 663 00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:20,580 it's pretty much sounded like they were 664 00:23:25,940 --> 00:23:22,740 done and Mike you know you kind of said 665 00:23:28,010 --> 00:23:25,950 told your team to calm down and take it 666 00:23:31,220 --> 00:23:28,020 a step at a time and it sounded like 667 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:31,230 something actually shut down and now in 668 00:23:36,140 --> 00:23:33,090 talking to us you described it as a 669 00:23:38,570 --> 00:23:36,150 hiccup can you clarify at all exactly 670 00:23:41,210 --> 00:23:38,580 what happened and why the range seemed 671 00:23:44,299 --> 00:23:41,220 to be like okay we're done and you all 672 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:44,309 were like no notnot quite the Calton 673 00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:46,770 came to Mike's team and the NTDs from 674 00:23:49,700 --> 00:23:48,270 the from the superintendent arranged 675 00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:49,710 operations was that the range was no go 676 00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:51,840 and so that was their way of saying we 677 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:53,400 just had a hiccup the same thing would 678 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:54,450 happen if we have been sitting there in 679 00:23:58,430 --> 00:23:56,010 a cloud would have blown in all of a 680 00:23:59,390 --> 00:23:58,440 sudden range weather or-or launch 681 00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:59,400 weather out in houston would have 682 00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:01,200 suddenly came in and been no go that 683 00:24:03,890 --> 00:24:02,910 doesn't mean that that you're done for 684 00:24:05,330 --> 00:24:03,900 the day and you're never going to start 685 00:24:06,830 --> 00:24:05,340 the count again it means I currently 686 00:24:09,860 --> 00:24:06,840 have a condition I cannot proceed under 687 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:09,870 and so the range had a hiccup in their 688 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:11,010 system that they needed time to talk 689 00:24:14,299 --> 00:24:12,690 about they weren't go to proceed before 690 00:24:15,950 --> 00:24:14,309 they understood it so they they threw 691 00:24:17,270 --> 00:24:15,960 their home switch and said we're no go 692 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:17,280 right now because we were very close to 693 00:24:21,290 --> 00:24:19,050 picking up the count at that time frame 694 00:24:23,330 --> 00:24:21,300 and and it's more important to make sure 695 00:24:24,650 --> 00:24:23,340 we've over communicated the we are not 696 00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,660 going to proceed until we understand the 697 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:26,400 problem so they threw their whole fire 698 00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:27,570 switch and said there are no go for 699 00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:29,460 operations while they proceeded to talk 700 00:24:32,180 --> 00:24:30,480 about the problem to see if they could 701 00:24:34,970 --> 00:24:32,190 resolve it we do it all the time 702 00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,980 internally on our side we do it both 703 00:24:38,660 --> 00:24:36,480 ways right you allow the if this is a 704 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:38,670 problem like this hatch tile problem we 705 00:24:42,020 --> 00:24:40,050 could have suddenly stopped counting 706 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:42,030 while we had the guys fix the tile but 707 00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:43,410 we knew we were going to fix that so we 708 00:24:47,780 --> 00:24:45,840 proceeded on this was one that we were 709 00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:47,790 too close to be able to proceed we could 710 00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:48,960 buy a little more time by counting down 711 00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:50,280 to five minutes but not much time to 712 00:24:54,110 --> 00:24:52,500 talk so it wasn't ever that they had a 713 00:24:55,490 --> 00:24:54,120 problem they were no go for and then all 714 00:24:57,049 --> 00:24:55,500 of a sudden they fixed it it was that 715 00:24:58,790 --> 00:24:57,059 they had an ongoing problem they were 716 00:25:00,590 --> 00:24:58,800 trying to resolve and the meantime they 717 00:25:02,180 --> 00:25:00,600 were alerting us that they were no go 718 00:25:04,340 --> 00:25:02,190 until they could fix that problem it 719 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:04,350 happens fairly often actually yeah it 720 00:25:08,350 --> 00:25:05,610 just doesn't usually happen within 721 00:25:10,490 --> 00:25:08,360 minute of launch and from the launch oh 722 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:10,500 I'm glad it doesn't always happen that 723 00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,170 way you know from a launch team 724 00:25:17,030 --> 00:25:15,600 perspective the natural reaction when 725 00:25:18,770 --> 00:25:17,040 when everybody's ready to go and you 726 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:18,780 hear that one system is no go there's 727 00:25:22,610 --> 00:25:21,210 there's a natural you know and that 728 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:22,620 happened and I want to make sure that it 729 00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:25,290 got the team back into the game and we 730 00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:27,120 were we were technically no go at that 731 00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:28,980 point but we had window remaining and so 732 00:25:32,090 --> 00:25:30,270 we're going to talk about problems until 733 00:25:32,770 --> 00:25:32,100 we run out of time and so that that was 734 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:32,780 the first time 735 00:25:36,730 --> 00:25:34,010 I said something at the team you know to 736 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:36,740 kind of get back into the game and then 737 00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:38,690 when we picked up the clock at five 738 00:25:42,670 --> 00:25:40,640 minutes then there was a there was the 739 00:25:44,770 --> 00:25:42,680 other natural reaction they'll write you 740 00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:44,780 know we're ready to go and so I calmed 741 00:25:47,410 --> 00:25:46,190 the team back down at that time too 742 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:47,420 because then we were five minutes and 743 00:25:50,860 --> 00:25:49,310 Counting and that's when that's when the 744 00:25:52,450 --> 00:25:50,870 systems really start getting active on 745 00:25:54,670 --> 00:25:52,460 the on the shuttle and the Boosters and 746 00:25:58,060 --> 00:25:54,680 so we needed to get back into the game 747 00:25:59,980 --> 00:25:58,070 and trust me they calm down and 748 00:26:01,210 --> 00:25:59,990 concentrate very very quickly mike mike 749 00:26:03,490 --> 00:26:01,220 has team did an amazing job that's 750 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:03,500 exactly why we train you know the mantra 751 00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:05,090 is under stress you fall back to the 752 00:26:08,020 --> 00:26:06,320 level training you had that's exactly 753 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:08,030 what happened today everybody fell back 754 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:09,410 to the training which told them to just 755 00:26:12,970 --> 00:26:11,330 stick to their guns and wait for the 756 00:26:14,770 --> 00:26:12,980 problem you know in the in the firing 757 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:14,780 room I have a phone Mike does too that's 758 00:26:19,270 --> 00:26:16,850 a direct line to the 45th Wing Commander 759 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:19,280 and the purpose of that is their systems 760 00:26:23,020 --> 00:26:21,170 no go we can then find out is this one 761 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:23,030 we're going to fix or not and what 762 00:26:25,090 --> 00:26:24,110 should we proceed or not and that's what 763 00:26:26,260 --> 00:26:25,100 happened today we got the 764 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:26,270 behind-the-scenes communication that 765 00:26:30,190 --> 00:26:28,850 we're not sure don't stop this is not a 766 00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:30,200 scrub condition just yet we're not sure 767 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:32,150 and so we decide to press on and then 768 00:26:38,290 --> 00:26:35,410 they eventually did clear their problem 769 00:26:40,930 --> 00:26:38,300 todd halvorson of Florida today I may 770 00:26:44,740 --> 00:26:40,940 have missed this but just to clarify did 771 00:26:47,770 --> 00:26:44,750 the foam liberation that you saw come 772 00:26:51,490 --> 00:26:47,780 from areas of the tank that had been 773 00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:51,500 patched up repaired or modified and 774 00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:54,110 secondly could could you remind me of 775 00:26:59,890 --> 00:26:57,520 the bracketing for the aerodynamic sense 776 00:27:02,620 --> 00:26:59,900 aerodynamically sensitive period I think 777 00:27:05,530 --> 00:27:02,630 it's up to like 135 seconds but could 778 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:05,540 you fresh me on that yeah the phone came 779 00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:07,850 off from an area that we did not work on 780 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,360 a repair it was in the inner tank region 781 00:27:16,030 --> 00:27:13,760 somewhere either in the inner tank or on 782 00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:16,040 the hydrogen tank side right in that 783 00:27:19,570 --> 00:27:18,110 that interface it was between the two 784 00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:19,580 big struts that come up and attach to 785 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:23,390 the orbiter the foam losses at 351 and I 786 00:27:29,380 --> 00:27:25,850 think Ras TT is around the time that you 787 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:29,390 said around 130 135 seconds so it was 788 00:27:34,030 --> 00:27:31,850 well after that point and and you can 789 00:27:36,190 --> 00:27:34,040 actually see it move forward it impacts 790 00:27:37,810 --> 00:27:36,200 the strut and it doesn't come apart even 791 00:27:39,910 --> 00:27:37,820 when it hits the strut so this is pretty 792 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:39,920 thin foam and that's evidence that when 793 00:27:44,110 --> 00:27:41,570 it hits the strut that it didn't break 794 00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:44,120 into pieces that its velocity was very 795 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:45,510 small so then that's 796 00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:47,610 that's evidence that there was no air to 797 00:27:56,060 --> 00:27:49,350 really push it or accelerated to cause 798 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:56,070 potential damage to it hi Evan brown fox 799 00:28:00,140 --> 00:27:58,410 news radio because of the extra little 800 00:28:02,830 --> 00:28:00,150 hold in there while the range issue is 801 00:28:05,570 --> 00:28:02,840 being worked on what type of if any 802 00:28:07,340 --> 00:28:05,580 course correction or any type of engine 803 00:28:08,750 --> 00:28:07,350 burn or something once they're in orbit 804 00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:08,760 and on their way to this to the station 805 00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,990 to make sure they actually get to 806 00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:12,000 station of the the right time frame does 807 00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:14,640 this change anything of how that works 808 00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:18,540 or no yes so the the rendezvous profile 809 00:28:22,820 --> 00:28:20,310 that's built has the flexibility to 810 00:28:25,310 --> 00:28:22,830 accommodate the entire launch window so 811 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:25,320 none of the burns will move I think the 812 00:28:28,730 --> 00:28:27,330 ohms to which is the first orbit 813 00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:28,740 insertion burn we do I think that 814 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:31,620 ignition time moved a couple seconds I 815 00:28:35,060 --> 00:28:33,210 don't know that the magnitude changed it 816 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:35,070 all but basically the rendezvous profile 817 00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:37,200 is built to have the ability to adjust 818 00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:39,630 to make up for either changes in the 819 00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:41,100 station's orbit or in the shuttles orbit 820 00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:42,720 if there's a collision avoidance burn 821 00:28:45,620 --> 00:28:44,580 that has to be done all that stuff you 822 00:28:46,970 --> 00:28:45,630 know we give ourselves built-in 823 00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:46,980 flexibility to be able to accommodate 824 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:48,360 within a given plan for the rendezvous 825 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:51,210 so the the technical answer is yes it 826 00:28:56,990 --> 00:28:53,370 did affect us the operational answers no 827 00:29:00,380 --> 00:28:57,000 it didn't have any impact to us nancy 828 00:29:03,650 --> 00:29:00,390 atkinson from universe today.com could 829 00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:03,660 you describe the black slurry that was 830 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:05,820 put on where the tile came off it was 831 00:29:09,820 --> 00:29:07,530 described as a black slurry but what 832 00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:09,830 kind of material is that yeah it's a 833 00:29:15,950 --> 00:29:12,630 person there are many different types of 834 00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:15,960 repair techniques to tiles you heard us 835 00:29:20,330 --> 00:29:17,940 talking about was a topcoat damage was 836 00:29:23,270 --> 00:29:20,340 that it was in an old repair turned out 837 00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:23,280 it was it was it was a shaved tile that 838 00:29:28,340 --> 00:29:25,440 had this black slurry put on the top of 839 00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,350 it it's a it's kind of a thick it's a 840 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:31,200 it's like a black paint but very very 841 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:33,810 viscous and they just kind of DAB it on 842 00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:35,610 smooth it out a little bit and you're 843 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:36,990 good to go and really that's just to 844 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:39,930 protect the underlying silica substrate 845 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:42,480 from any kind of exposure at all it's a 846 00:29:56,270 --> 00:29:43,890 very very standard repair you see them 847 00:30:00,270 --> 00:29:58,770 Randy avere with inner space news for 848 00:30:02,790 --> 00:30:00,280 Gertz demeyer have there been any 849 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:02,800 proposals for from the commercial space 850 00:30:09,270 --> 00:30:07,210 industry to develop plans or to operate 851 00:30:12,570 --> 00:30:09,280 the eastern missile test range for 852 00:30:16,140 --> 00:30:12,580 commercial flights out of Kennedy Space 853 00:30:22,770 --> 00:30:16,150 Center the cape canaveral air force 854 00:30:26,580 --> 00:30:22,780 station in general for the future i I'm 855 00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:26,590 not aware of any but I don't know it's 856 00:30:31,650 --> 00:30:29,380 probably the easiest answer I I would I 857 00:30:33,150 --> 00:30:31,660 wouldn't be informed of them directly if 858 00:30:35,580 --> 00:30:33,160 there were some but I don't know of any 859 00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:35,590 so I think the answer is really we'd 860 00:30:40,260 --> 00:30:36,910 have to get you a more detailed answer 861 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:40,270 but I don't know of any and you know 862 00:30:44,130 --> 00:30:42,130 that some are already flying right the 863 00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:44,140 SpaceX already flies off a launch pad 864 00:30:48,570 --> 00:30:46,960 for tea etc right and and orbital is 865 00:30:50,550 --> 00:30:48,580 planning to go out of Wallops in the 866 00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:50,560 future but then beyond that I don't have 867 00:30:55,550 --> 00:30:52,900 any knowledge I gentleman phila Keating 868 00:30:58,770 --> 00:30:55,560 Fox News so we have the entire day of 869 00:31:00,450 --> 00:30:58,780 fantastic weather no technical issues at 870 00:31:02,670 --> 00:31:00,460 all that NASA is following all day and 871 00:31:04,410 --> 00:31:02,680 then 15 minutes before the window opens 872 00:31:07,710 --> 00:31:04,420 you've got what's described as this 873 00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:07,720 computer glitch me the implication was 874 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:10,990 that all of the humans involved here no 875 00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:12,610 it's just a computer glitch that it's 876 00:31:19,070 --> 00:31:16,630 not reflecting a serious real concern so 877 00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:19,080 could there have been a point where even 878 00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:22,030 though the range is saying read no-go 879 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:24,630 that they could have been overruled and 880 00:31:29,790 --> 00:31:28,090 the launch commences that's an easy one 881 00:31:31,230 --> 00:31:29,800 answer that that's no absolute and they 882 00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:31,240 are the launch decision Authority for 883 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:33,310 Range Safety we are the launch decision 884 00:31:36,450 --> 00:31:34,930 authority for our vehicle and if they 885 00:31:38,250 --> 00:31:36,460 are no go to launch for Range Safety we 886 00:31:39,210 --> 00:31:38,260 will not launch that day and just like i 887 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:39,220 said was trying to make clear at the 888 00:31:43,650 --> 00:31:41,410 beginning the process of hearing me on 889 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:43,660 the loop telling like the range has 890 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:45,610 given me a go pick up the count that 891 00:31:48,510 --> 00:31:46,930 doesn't mean proceed without them that 892 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:48,520 is that is get our team ready to go so 893 00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:50,110 when the switch is thrown we're not 894 00:31:53,610 --> 00:31:52,030 delaying any further than we have to and 895 00:31:55,230 --> 00:31:53,620 we were still waiting for their go to 896 00:32:03,250 --> 00:31:55,240 proceed and that's exactly what we did 897 00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:06,620 sure Mark Simpson for WM Fe public radio 898 00:32:12,919 --> 00:32:09,600 just wondering since there was more foam 899 00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:12,929 than normal coming down from the shuttle 900 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:15,000 when it reached that that point in its 901 00:32:18,830 --> 00:32:16,890 liftoff how does that impact the 902 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:18,840 inspections that you'll do when the 903 00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:20,730 shuttle flips over and you take pictures 904 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:22,980 will you be focusing in a more detailed 905 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:27,090 way because of that extra foam it'll we 906 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:28,650 know we have the standard plan that will 907 00:32:32,270 --> 00:32:30,960 go do the standard inspection will also 908 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:32,280 get a good chance when we get the 909 00:32:35,390 --> 00:32:34,290 umbilical well cameras down will 910 00:32:36,919 --> 00:32:35,400 actually be able to get some good 911 00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:36,929 pictures of the tank the lighting was 912 00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:38,910 excellent obviously on orbit so we'll 913 00:32:42,169 --> 00:32:40,590 get a good chance to see exactly where 914 00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:42,179 we had foam loss from the tank there may 915 00:32:45,770 --> 00:32:43,919 be more than what I saw in the ass end 916 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:45,780 video like we get surprised when we 917 00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:47,490 actually see some areas but then the 918 00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:49,140 standard inspection is pretty much our 919 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:51,030 routine inspection there's nothing that 920 00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:52,530 would cause us to do anything different 921 00:32:57,230 --> 00:32:55,070 than we are we have a very thorough very 922 00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:57,240 methodical plan to go take a look at the 923 00:33:02,240 --> 00:32:58,559 bottom of the orbit and will discontinue 924 00:33:05,620 --> 00:33:02,250 with that same plan okay any additional 925 00:33:11,540 --> 00:33:08,870 James Dean from Florida today just 926 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:11,550 wondered how unusual it is to actually 927 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:14,880 launch late later in a window than 928 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:18,690 planned and for for Mike Leinbach I 929 00:33:23,150 --> 00:33:20,850 unless I missed it I don't think you got 930 00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:23,160 to deliver your usual send off to the 931 00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:25,110 shuttle commander if you'd like to 932 00:33:32,810 --> 00:33:28,200 deliver it now be curious yeah yeah and 933 00:33:38,030 --> 00:33:32,820 it was going to be so good too I'll save 934 00:33:39,530 --> 00:33:38,040 it for the next commander the we've 935 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:39,540 launched late before there was another 936 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:41,850 mission I recall we lost with 11 seconds 937 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:44,970 left in the window but you know that we 938 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:46,290 have launched windows on purpose we 939 00:33:50,660 --> 00:33:49,110 again we train we trained for them it 940 00:33:52,010 --> 00:33:50,670 probably makes it feel even better when 941 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:52,020 we launched late in the window because 942 00:33:56,090 --> 00:33:54,809 you're working hard and and you know 943 00:33:58,820 --> 00:33:56,100 you've accomplished something really 944 00:34:01,310 --> 00:33:58,830 great and the fact you've done it with 945 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:01,320 just a few seconds left to go probably 946 00:34:04,460 --> 00:34:02,970 makes it a little bit more sweet and to 947 00:34:06,919 --> 00:34:04,470 fall back on what Mike said you know we 948 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:06,929 practiced so much when you first asked 949 00:34:10,220 --> 00:34:08,610 you a question my response was I can't 950 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:10,230 remember ever launching on time but 951 00:34:13,609 --> 00:34:12,510 that's because we sim all the time going 952 00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:13,619 late in that window because we're 953 00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:15,270 working issue so it's almost second 954 00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:17,040 nature to us to not be so worried about 955 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:20,159 that the end of the window like that I'm 956 00:34:23,180 --> 00:34:21,690 mark Kirkman with inner space news again 957 00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:23,190 I'd like to stop talking about hold 958 00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:25,590 fires for a second and to me this is a 959 00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:27,030 big deal that discovery is never going 960 00:34:29,659 --> 00:34:28,350 to leave the pad again I was just 961 00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:29,669 wondering if the three of you could tell 962 00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:31,590 me where you were the first time 963 00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:33,540 discovery did some of you were working 964 00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:35,040 with the program some of you may be too 965 00:34:38,540 --> 00:34:36,540 young to have been with the program but 966 00:34:40,010 --> 00:34:38,550 was it on your radar at all what's your 967 00:34:43,849 --> 00:34:40,020 recollection is the first time discovery 968 00:34:46,580 --> 00:34:43,859 flew compared to today I was in console 969 00:34:49,700 --> 00:34:46,590 in Houston Texas as a propulsion officer 970 00:34:52,919 --> 00:34:49,710 on discoveries first flight I was in 971 00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:52,929 college dreaming of being like Bill 972 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:56,480 and my wife and I were down here on a 973 00:35:00,160 --> 00:34:58,010 house hunting trip I just gotten the 974 00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:00,170 notification that NASA was going to hire 975 00:35:04,690 --> 00:35:02,960 me we came down on a trip and we got the 976 00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:04,700 first launch i ever saw was a discovery 977 00:35:21,849 --> 00:35:07,520 launch and so yeah it brings back good 978 00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:21,859 memories stephannie Culloden for at 979 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:24,950 least news24 for my claim work this is 980 00:35:29,140 --> 00:35:27,290 going to sing sound kind of funny 981 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:29,150 question but the speed dial in your 982 00:35:35,980 --> 00:35:31,130 phone too when you talk to the commander 983 00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:35,990 of the space wing it that's really not 984 00:35:42,339 --> 00:35:39,980 that that bad a question stuff now we 985 00:35:44,140 --> 00:35:42,349 have point-to-point phones and and they 986 00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:44,150 are there there are hard lines when you 987 00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:47,030 pick up the handset it automatically 988 00:35:51,550 --> 00:35:48,800 rings on the other person's console Mike 989 00:35:53,050 --> 00:35:51,560 and I have one as he said we both have 990 00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:53,060 one to the commander and it sits for 991 00:35:58,290 --> 00:35:55,310 that very purpose i mean it's to get in 992 00:36:01,180 --> 00:35:58,300 as quick as communication as you can and 993 00:36:02,349 --> 00:36:01,190 we use them every now and then Mike and 994 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:02,359 I we use our it's quite a bit and 995 00:36:07,329 --> 00:36:04,130 probably in every countdown just to talk 996 00:36:18,490 --> 00:36:07,339 about different things and so ya know we 997 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:20,960 Jim Siegel celebration independent 998 00:36:24,890 --> 00:36:22,370 newspaper again I wondered if Mike 999 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:24,900 Leinbach could hold up that banner again 1000 00:36:30,590 --> 00:36:26,850 so some of us who work quick on the 1001 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:30,600 trigger could get a photo of it now yes 1002 00:36:51,740 --> 00:36:50,660 or shouldn't Associated Press I'm 1003 00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:51,750 wondering if any of you have 1004 00:36:56,420 --> 00:36:54,420 communicated with tim kopra and do you 1005 00:37:00,740 --> 00:36:56,430 know where he might have been fur for 1006 00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:00,750 the lift off I've not communicated with 1007 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:03,030 him I think he's in houston when i asked 1008 00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:04,890 and he's going to participate in the EV 1009 00:37:09,530 --> 00:37:07,440 a so you'll see him on console helping 1010 00:37:11,150 --> 00:37:09,540 out with the EVs to make sure things go 1011 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:11,160 well but I've not talked to him directly 1012 00:37:20,690 --> 00:37:12,570 but I'm pretty sure he was in Houston 1013 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:20,700 for the line James Dean floor today all 1014 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,930 the reports we were hearing were that 1015 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:23,520 there were just massive crowds out there 1016 00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:26,130 and I'm just wondering if you're 1017 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:27,960 surprised that we're seeing this this 1018 00:37:35,780 --> 00:37:31,890 huge show of people and interest in a 1019 00:37:37,700 --> 00:37:35,790 motion for 4 launches now yeah not 1020 00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:37,710 surprised it's funny everybody calls and 1021 00:37:41,150 --> 00:37:39,600 asked me for advice on when to leave to 1022 00:37:43,460 --> 00:37:41,160 get here and what the best road to go is 1023 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:43,470 we're all here for launch 16 hours 1024 00:37:46,730 --> 00:37:45,240 before launch week we have no idea 1025 00:37:49,070 --> 00:37:46,740 what's going on outside this Center and 1026 00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:49,080 we don't leave until after you guys stop 1027 00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:51,150 asking us questions so hopefully we miss 1028 00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:52,380 a fair bit of the traffic on the way 1029 00:37:56,270 --> 00:37:54,240 home so but no it's i mean that's it's 1030 00:37:57,950 --> 00:37:56,280 it's natural that the final flight ought 1031 00:37:59,690 --> 00:37:57,960 to deserve that type of attention from 1032 00:38:02,480 --> 00:37:59,700 the public and and it certainly is 1033 00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:02,490 within the NASA family we've as Mike 1034 00:38:04,970 --> 00:38:03,720 talked about it in one of the pretty 1035 00:38:07,070 --> 00:38:04,980 much conferences there's a whole team 1036 00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:07,080 set up to kind of look after the morale 1037 00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:08,460 of the workforce what we can do not only 1038 00:38:11,780 --> 00:38:10,440 to to help us make it through this time 1039 00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:11,790 at the end of the program but to 1040 00:38:16,130 --> 00:38:13,320 commemorate the work and the dedication 1041 00:38:18,260 --> 00:38:16,140 and the lifetime energy that these folks 1042 00:38:19,970 --> 00:38:18,270 have put into this program and so we 1043 00:38:21,650 --> 00:38:19,980 have extra car passes for families we 1044 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:21,660 had arrangements that were able to bring 1045 00:38:25,340 --> 00:38:23,700 folks that normally need an escort 1046 00:38:26,990 --> 00:38:25,350 because but their spouse works the 1047 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:27,000 council and they can't do that we had 1048 00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:28,890 ways to get them on site this time and 1049 00:38:33,050 --> 00:38:30,660 so we really took some extra steps and 1050 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:33,060 it's deservedly so to allow folks to 1051 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:34,410 share the experience of seeing discovery 1052 00:38:43,790 --> 00:38:41,730 go for the last time Chris gebhardt with 1053 00:38:46,970 --> 00:38:43,800 NASA Space Flight calm again hi I got 1054 00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:46,980 asked a technical question the the the 1055 00:38:50,750 --> 00:38:49,470 minor bus issue that you that you worked 1056 00:38:52,070 --> 00:38:50,760 earlier in the count can you just give 1057 00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:52,080 us a little bit of information about 1058 00:38:58,910 --> 00:38:56,880 that yeah it had to do with our actually 1059 00:39:00,620 --> 00:38:58,920 it's a range safety system we had a 1060 00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:00,630 little bit of a spike on one of the 1061 00:39:08,510 --> 00:39:05,040 ground buses and it was a 6 amps pike it 1062 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:08,520 affected it took out our ground ird or 1063 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:10,770 integrated receiver decoder which is a 1064 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:12,450 piece of equipment we used to test out 1065 00:39:17,090 --> 00:39:14,610 the range safety system so so so a piece 1066 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:17,100 of ground support equipment failed that 1067 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:19,410 caused the spike in the bus that's not a 1068 00:39:23,330 --> 00:39:20,730 requirement for launch that's a ground 1069 00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:23,340 check out requirement so all the tests 1070 00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:26,880 that we did after that failure checked 1071 00:39:30,620 --> 00:39:28,680 out perfectly fine I mean that the range 1072 00:39:39,390 --> 00:39:30,630 safety system from our side was was 1073 00:39:43,810 --> 00:39:41,920 so one more bill Gerstenmaier you 1074 00:39:45,630 --> 00:39:43,820 discuss this a little bit before but 1075 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:45,640 until now there's no guarantee that 1076 00:39:51,490 --> 00:39:48,290 shuttle would make it up there to join 1077 00:39:52,570 --> 00:39:51,500 all these other vehicles at once and so 1078 00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:52,580 you can keep talking about this fly 1079 00:39:57,940 --> 00:39:54,700 around and stuff so just one or two 1080 00:40:00,010 --> 00:39:57,950 again after your emails from the east of 1081 00:40:02,740 --> 00:40:00,020 folks and all that just your feelings on 1082 00:40:04,810 --> 00:40:02,750 I guess what you think you'll feel when 1083 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:04,820 you see shuttle docking and joining all 1084 00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:08,090 those vehicles up there you know I think 1085 00:40:11,980 --> 00:40:10,310 it's a pretty unique time in the history 1086 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:11,990 of spaceflight if you look at what we're 1087 00:40:16,270 --> 00:40:14,210 doing with Space Station right you know 1088 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:16,280 the HTV launch first there was a 1089 00:40:23,350 --> 00:40:20,210 progress undocking and launch in there 1090 00:40:24,730 --> 00:40:23,360 then there's the ATV launch and in the 1091 00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,740 shuttle launch so this is a pretty 1092 00:40:29,110 --> 00:40:26,720 amazing time on board space station the 1093 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:29,120 crew is tremendously busy getting 1094 00:40:33,220 --> 00:40:31,250 activities done and getting the station 1095 00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:33,230 really outfitted for the kind of the 1096 00:40:36,540 --> 00:40:34,790 final time with the final things and 1097 00:40:39,070 --> 00:40:36,550 adding this new module is a big deal so 1098 00:40:40,810 --> 00:40:39,080 I don't know I think we just need to 1099 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:40,820 step back and reflect on these times 1100 00:40:46,060 --> 00:40:44,330 because this is a very very intriguing 1101 00:40:48,190 --> 00:40:46,070 time in terms of the number of vehicles 1102 00:40:49,660 --> 00:40:48,200 go into space station and the activities 1103 00:40:51,730 --> 00:40:49,670 that are occurring on station this is a 1104 00:40:53,650 --> 00:40:51,740 probably unprecedented in history of 1105 00:40:56,770 --> 00:40:53,660 human spaceflight the amount of activity 1106 00:40:58,570 --> 00:40:56,780 to one single destination all focused 1107 00:40:59,920 --> 00:40:58,580 around the same thing and all the 1108 00:41:01,390 --> 00:40:59,930 partners around the world that 1109 00:41:03,310 --> 00:41:01,400 essentially they're working together in 1110 00:41:05,410 --> 00:41:03,320 these activities so that the tie between 1111 00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:05,420 us is much stronger than I've ever seen 1112 00:41:10,570 --> 00:41:07,520 it before I get congratulations from 1113 00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:10,580 Japan and ISA in all hours of the day 1114 00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:12,230 and night because you know its many 1115 00:41:16,270 --> 00:41:14,240 hours different from there and they're 1116 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:16,280 staying up watching launches from Japan 1117 00:41:20,410 --> 00:41:18,170 and ISA and I'm getting texts from them 1118 00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:20,420 just like it's day time so they they are 1119 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:23,260 following our activities with the same I 1120 00:41:27,790 --> 00:41:25,850 guess the same enthusiasm that we are 1121 00:41:29,710 --> 00:41:27,800 here and what it what a neat thing to 1122 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:29,720 see this entire international team 1123 00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:31,370 pulling together to go do this activity 1124 00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:33,710 so I think spend a little time even 1125 00:41:37,150 --> 00:41:35,390 during the mission to watch the EVs 1126 00:41:38,860 --> 00:41:37,160 watch the interactions between the 1127 00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:38,870 Canadians that are working to robotics 1128 00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:41,030 watch what's happening with a TV at the 1129 00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:42,110 same time we're going to do a little 1130 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:43,790 reboost with it here in a couple days 1131 00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:45,770 actually prior probably prior to docking 1132 00:41:49,930 --> 00:41:48,110 of the shuttle so this is a really neat 1133 00:41:51,250 --> 00:41:49,940 time for you to step back and watch and 1134 00:41:53,650 --> 00:41:51,260 see how this international 1135 00:41:55,300 --> 00:41:53,660 ballet and dance comes together in space 1136 00:41:56,620 --> 00:41:55,310 and it's pretty special if you if you 1137 00:42:00,430 --> 00:41:56,630 spend a little time to look and see how 1138 00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:00,440 it all fits together mark fowler from 1139 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:03,110 the Arizona Republic following up the 1140 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:05,090 question a minute ago about these the 1141 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:06,890 crowds and the enthusiasm in the surge 1142 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:09,410 of interest and I may be jumping a gun 1143 00:42:12,580 --> 00:42:10,850 just a little bit but if you given any 1144 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:12,590 thought and now it's a little premature 1145 00:42:20,110 --> 00:42:16,250 to what is likely to be an awful lot of 1146 00:42:22,180 --> 00:42:20,120 attention on 134 with Mark Kelly and his 1147 00:42:27,850 --> 00:42:22,190 wife and what the ramifications that 1148 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:27,860 might be well you know from a from a 1149 00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:30,170 planning standpoint we'll go through the 1150 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:32,260 normal process to see what type of 1151 00:42:35,380 --> 00:42:34,010 attendees were going to have in launch 1152 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:35,390 guess but no we haven't done anything 1153 00:42:38,980 --> 00:42:36,890 extra special we'd go through the normal 1154 00:42:41,380 --> 00:42:38,990 rigor from from a safety and security 1155 00:42:44,110 --> 00:42:41,390 evaluation the number of people we allow 1156 00:42:46,570 --> 00:42:44,120 on site is limited by our range safety 1157 00:42:49,090 --> 00:42:46,580 rules that that allow for public safety 1158 00:42:50,890 --> 00:42:49,100 then the crowds outside that fencer are 1159 00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:50,900 just kind of what's to be expected but 1160 00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:52,580 no I don't think we put a lot of serious 1161 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:54,560 thought into that one we're still a 1162 00:43:00,070 --> 00:42:55,730 little bit away from that in a planning 1163 00:43:02,860 --> 00:43:00,080 process standpoint Randy avera in a 1164 00:43:06,340 --> 00:43:02,870 space news all the investments that have 1165 00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:06,350 been put forth by taxpayers and other 1166 00:43:11,950 --> 00:43:09,110 investors to build the International 1167 00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:11,960 Space Station once we get it completed 1168 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:13,630 in you know and its most mature 1169 00:43:21,070 --> 00:43:18,050 configuration what what is the mechanism 1170 00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:21,080 by which the taxpayer will understand 1171 00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,360 what they got for their investment is I 1172 00:43:28,990 --> 00:43:25,520 mean we we've had spin-offs and 1173 00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:29,000 outreaches by NASA for decades but we 1174 00:43:33,490 --> 00:43:30,800 still have a societal problem where 1175 00:43:35,650 --> 00:43:33,500 people don't seem to understand the 1176 00:43:38,050 --> 00:43:35,660 tremendous return on their investment in 1177 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:38,060 space hardware and space operations is 1178 00:43:43,060 --> 00:43:41,570 there some new vision for relating the 1179 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:43,070 science that's coming off of this 1180 00:43:48,340 --> 00:43:46,130 international space station we're trying 1181 00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:48,350 to work with the science community to 1182 00:43:52,210 --> 00:43:50,000 try to get that information out to you 1183 00:43:53,740 --> 00:43:52,220 in a better format and you'll see some 1184 00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,750 information we're going to be providing 1185 00:43:57,730 --> 00:43:56,000 to you that I think you can use and 1186 00:44:00,490 --> 00:43:57,740 understand the problem is some of our 1187 00:44:02,050 --> 00:44:00,500 researchers don't want to really share 1188 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:02,060 that information until they've really 1189 00:44:04,780 --> 00:44:04,490 confirmed that the findings are they're 1190 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:04,790 fine 1191 00:44:09,220 --> 00:44:07,010 ending are really a hundred percent peer 1192 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:09,230 reviewed and analyzed and all those 1193 00:44:12,580 --> 00:44:10,730 things but we're trying to put together 1194 00:44:13,780 --> 00:44:12,590 a series of products where you can look 1195 00:44:15,310 --> 00:44:13,790 at just some of the numbers of the 1196 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:15,320 amount of investigations that are going 1197 00:44:18,730 --> 00:44:17,450 on in space station they've dramatically 1198 00:44:20,770 --> 00:44:18,740 increased the number of hours that we're 1199 00:44:22,750 --> 00:44:20,780 doing research onboard station we're 1200 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:22,760 looking at unique things like combustion 1201 00:44:26,170 --> 00:44:24,650 and zero gravity which is some pretty 1202 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:26,180 unique experiments that are occurring 1203 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:27,890 that are going up we've been working 1204 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:30,530 with vaccines vaccine potential 1205 00:44:34,180 --> 00:44:32,690 development for Salmonella etc there's 1206 00:44:36,310 --> 00:44:34,190 even some on this shuttle flight that 1207 00:44:37,390 --> 00:44:36,320 went up for that doing lots of robotic 1208 00:44:39,310 --> 00:44:37,400 activities so we're going to put 1209 00:44:40,660 --> 00:44:39,320 together some publications and some 1210 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:40,670 things which we think will be helpful 1211 00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:43,610 for you to use that you can help us get 1212 00:44:47,230 --> 00:44:45,200 the message out of what's going on with 1213 00:44:48,730 --> 00:44:47,240 station but i think our public affairs 1214 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:48,740 folks would be glad to hear from you if 1215 00:44:51,820 --> 00:44:50,090 there's a better way we can communicate 1216 00:44:53,590 --> 00:44:51,830 with you you could get with our public 1217 00:44:55,390 --> 00:44:53,600 affairs folks maybe we can generate some 1218 00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:55,400 products that are easier for you to use 1219 00:45:00,220 --> 00:44:56,960 and distribute distribute out to the 1220 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:00,230 population in general and it would be 1221 00:45:06,010 --> 00:45:01,970 it's an international product that we're 1222 00:45:07,780 --> 00:45:06,020 trying to put together yes my name is 1223 00:45:10,740 --> 00:45:07,790 Chuck Lauer it's a while satellite 1224 00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:10,750 television from Japan in the military 1225 00:45:16,060 --> 00:45:14,200 when a unit stands down there is a 1226 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:16,070 retirement of the colour ceremony 1227 00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:19,250 typically do you have anything special 1228 00:45:28,330 --> 00:45:22,190 planned for discovery when she comes 1229 00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:28,340 back and goes to wheel stop yeah I mean 1230 00:45:33,820 --> 00:45:31,280 you know we have some ideas there's 1231 00:45:37,450 --> 00:45:33,830 nothing concrete again we've talked 1232 00:45:38,890 --> 00:45:37,460 about this before that really the job 1233 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:38,900 has been focused on getting it in orbit 1234 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:40,730 getting the mission done successful once 1235 00:45:44,830 --> 00:45:42,410 we hit will stop then we'll start 1236 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:44,840 talking about a commemoration but for us 1237 00:45:48,670 --> 00:45:46,490 the program still continues even though 1238 00:45:50,860 --> 00:45:48,680 from a team perspective we do want to 1239 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:50,870 recognize the commitment of the team and 1240 00:45:54,490 --> 00:45:52,850 the effort spent you know here at 1241 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:54,500 Kennedy especially by people have 1242 00:45:57,970 --> 00:45:56,090 dedicated their particular career to 1243 00:45:59,170 --> 00:45:57,980 that vehicle but but as a program in 1244 00:46:00,580 --> 00:45:59,180 general you know the shuttle program 1245 00:46:01,570 --> 00:46:00,590 still has a couple more months in two 1246 00:46:03,850 --> 00:46:01,580 more flights that we need to make sure 1247 00:46:05,830 --> 00:46:03,860 we stay focused on in state state target 1248 00:46:06,940 --> 00:46:05,840 on so we've talked about some interim 1249 00:46:08,530 --> 00:46:06,950 type things that will do but we're 1250 00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:08,540 probably saving this the celebration 1251 00:46:11,950 --> 00:46:09,920 type stuff until wheel stop at the last 1252 00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:11,960 mission I would just tell you too that 1253 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:14,480 that after will stop of any mission you 1254 00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,850 know the orbiter is still hot they're 1255 00:46:20,529 --> 00:46:18,319 still hazards on board 1256 00:46:22,809 --> 00:46:20,539 fuels and commodities and pyrotechnics 1257 00:46:25,089 --> 00:46:22,819 that type of things so any type of any 1258 00:46:26,829 --> 00:46:25,099 type of widespread celebration here at 1259 00:46:28,809 --> 00:46:26,839 the Kennedy Space Center would follow 1260 00:46:30,670 --> 00:46:28,819 all that safing and that takes a good 1261 00:46:32,259 --> 00:46:30,680 three four weeks something like that 1262 00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,269 typically to get all that done and so 1263 00:46:35,949 --> 00:46:34,400 you know we were wait for all that to be 1264 00:46:38,319 --> 00:46:35,959 done before we'd open it up to two 1265 00:46:39,939 --> 00:46:38,329 masses to go do something with the 1266 00:46:42,130 --> 00:46:39,949 orbiter if that's indeed in the plan on 1267 00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:42,140 my question we've done some things for 1268 00:46:46,420 --> 00:46:44,209 employees and families you know as we do 1269 00:46:47,709 --> 00:46:46,430 the rollover to the vab we stopped for 1270 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:47,719 some pictures for some of the employees 1271 00:46:51,249 --> 00:46:49,249 that have dedicated their lives working 1272 00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:51,259 on these vehicles when we roll out to 1273 00:46:54,969 --> 00:46:53,209 the pad now we let the employees come 1274 00:46:57,099 --> 00:46:54,979 down for the roll out to the pad which 1275 00:46:58,180 --> 00:46:57,109 is also a chance for them to reflect a 1276 00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:58,190 little bit on what they've dedicated 1277 00:47:01,959 --> 00:47:00,079 their careers to and dedicate a large 1278 00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:01,969 portion of their life as far as the end 1279 00:47:05,469 --> 00:47:03,680 of mission things will think of all that 1280 00:47:08,469 --> 00:47:05,479 later a little bit we're still pretty 1281 00:47:10,479 --> 00:47:08,479 focused on making sure we utilize this 1282 00:47:11,859 --> 00:47:10,489 asset in the best way we can and stay 1283 00:47:13,509 --> 00:47:11,869 focused on the mission we've got in 1284 00:47:14,589 --> 00:47:13,519 front of us and then we'll talk more 1285 00:47:18,579 --> 00:47:14,599 about what we think the appropriate 1286 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:18,589 thing is to do at the end the additional 1287 00:47:30,609 --> 00:47:21,410 questions here I will take one more and 1288 00:47:32,620 --> 00:47:30,619 then we'll wrap James Dean James Dean 1289 00:47:34,059 --> 00:47:32,630 from Florida today for Mike Leinbach I 1290 00:47:37,479 --> 00:47:34,069 gathered from the commentary that there 1291 00:47:38,829 --> 00:47:37,489 was among the closeout crew and maybe 15 1292 00:47:41,370 --> 00:47:38,839 various positions that we get to see on 1293 00:47:43,930 --> 00:47:41,380 TV there were some folks who were 1294 00:47:46,930 --> 00:47:43,940 working their last mission and I was 1295 00:47:48,759 --> 00:47:46,940 wondering if if that was true of any 1296 00:47:50,289 --> 00:47:48,769 folks on your consoles in the firing 1297 00:47:52,989 --> 00:47:50,299 room if there's anything special done 1298 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:52,999 for them or just about you know just how 1299 00:47:56,949 --> 00:47:54,170 many folks were kind of working their 1300 00:47:57,849 --> 00:47:56,959 last mission do you think or is this the 1301 00:48:00,009 --> 00:47:57,859 team that's going to take you all the 1302 00:48:02,319 --> 00:48:00,019 way to the end well there were a couple 1303 00:48:05,140 --> 00:48:02,329 people in the firing room whose whose 1304 00:48:07,509 --> 00:48:05,150 whose day was their last day on the last 1305 00:48:09,489 --> 00:48:07,519 mission today those are voluntary folks 1306 00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:09,499 George Thomas I mentioned one he's the 1307 00:48:13,150 --> 00:48:11,599 ground launch sequencer operator he took 1308 00:48:15,309 --> 00:48:13,160 a voluntary layoff today was his last 1309 00:48:17,799 --> 00:48:15,319 launch our safety council operator 1310 00:48:19,299 --> 00:48:17,809 Dwayne Thompson this was his last launch 1311 00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:19,309 he took a voluntary layoff so yeah there 1312 00:48:24,609 --> 00:48:21,049 were a couple people there who chose to 1313 00:48:25,989 --> 00:48:24,619 leave after after this launch but as I 1314 00:48:28,449 --> 00:48:25,999 described before you know we have a very 1315 00:48:30,130 --> 00:48:28,459 rigorous process in place where we look 1316 00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:30,140 at all critical skills across the Space 1317 00:48:33,290 --> 00:48:30,960 Center 1318 00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:33,300 and determine whether we're go or no-go 1319 00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:35,250 based on the on the headcount and the 1320 00:48:39,740 --> 00:48:37,590 experience level of those people and so 1321 00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:39,750 right now we're perfectly fine for the 1322 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:41,250 next two missions and I don't expect 1323 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:44,250 that to change will be good will be good 1324 00:48:49,310 --> 00:48:47,130 till the end okay that concludes today's 1325 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:49,320 news conference for more information on 1326 00:48:55,730 --> 00:48:51,690 spatial discoveries sts-133 mission